@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 Sender: Lazlo Nibble <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> 5Feb96 Tidbits > While the issues of cyber-rights are critical to all of us, a question > has persisted in my mind on this topic of regulation. Given the almost > borderless nature of the internet, how will regulation be technically > possible? 1) Find a site that's publishing "indecent" content. 2) Figure out where the site is physically located, or likely to be. 3) If that location is in the US, get a search warrant. 4) Raid, seize, arrest. I don't see the problem, really. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 Sender: Brennon Martin <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> IS TELECOM FUND FOR INSIDERS, OR THE PUBLIC? > IS TELECOM FUND FOR INSIDERS, OR THE PUBLIC? > by Randall M. Chastain > American Reporter Correspondent > > COLUMBIA, S.C. -- The enormous and long-awaited telecommunications > bill slated for Presidential approval this week has been widely discussed > in the media. I have to wonder where Mr. Chastain gets his media feed because this statement seems absolutely ludicrous to me. Later in this article, the author correctly points out the fact that the media has failed to discuss this legislation sufficiently, but this point cannot be emphasized enough. What little discussion has appeared (re: CDA) has focused not on the fact that basic rights were being taken away but more on what it is from which we are being "protected." The Fourth Estate, our "watchdogs," have become the loudspeaker of the government. Cynically yours, Brennon M. Martin School of Communications, Box 353740 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195-3740 206.543.2660 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 Sender: LECLERC YVES <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> Telecom bill outlaws Supreme Court decisions On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Craig A. Johnson wrote: > Under the terms of the Telecom bill, soon to be law, making this > Supreme Court decision generally available is a crime punishable by 2 > years in prison and a $25,000 fine. > > You might think that because this decision is talking about indecency, > it is exempt from indecency rules. If you read the decision you will > find that there is no such exemption. The material that the Supreme > Court found to be indecent was a radio program about indecency rules. If this is correct, I strongly suggest that one of our American colleagues, or CPSR itself, bring the Supreme Court (or the agency housing the official site where its decisions are available) to court for 'Net indecency. Any lawyer with a sense of humor out there? Yves Leclerc Dead-End Democracy? or open-ended government... <•••@••.•••> Montreal, Quebec @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 Sender: "Steve Eppley" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> "Nations see Internet as Threat" Mike Ang wrote: >"Nations see Internet as threat to security" made the front page of >the Saturday _Globe and Mail_. [snip] It was in the L.A. Times 2/4/96 Opinion section, too. It concluded by musing on whether the multinational corporations might come down on the side of the cyberdenizens or the nationstates, failing to note they have their own agendas. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 Sender: "David E. Anderson" <•••@••.•••> Subject: incident report: Telecom Dregs chills from Educom: COLLEGES WORRY ABOUT NEW LIABILITY FOR INTERNET CONTENT The recent passage of the telecommunications reform bill has some college administrators worried over new liability issues for educational institutions that might unknowingly make "indecent" material available to minors through their Internet access operations. In addition, they've expressed concern over potential First Amendment violations if they censor the content too heavily. "We have programs on campus about date rape, unwanted pregnancy, and reproductive-health options, so I don't see how we'd tolerate censorship of that kind of information in the electronic format," says the head of telecommunications at Carnegie Mellon University. (Chronicle of Higher Education 9 Feb 96 A23) Dave -- The Telecom Bill passed Feb '96: "This is the most lobbied piece of legislation I have ever seen," said Rep. Ron Klink, D-Penn. "This is the most lobbied piece of legislation I hope I ever see. I don't want anyone to try and break these records." So, do you really think the bill is about getting government off your back? "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." -- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 David E. Anderson/New Media Support, Worldwide Support, Oracle Corporation @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 Sender: "T. Bruce Tober" <•••@••.•••> Subject: It used to be said... The traditional chant when a monarch dies is "The King/Queen is dead. Long live the king/queen". Well, As of about an hour ago the First Amendment is dead. Unfortunately there is no good replacement, just the Communications "Decency" Act. And so I guess the best can be said is "The First Amendment is dead. Rest in Peace." My condolences. tbt - The US Congress should be impeached for breach of the Constitution it was sworn to uphold. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 Sender: •••@••.••• (Jan Blair) Subject: Lowey-Hyde colloquy re CDA I've been trying for two days to get a copy of the colloquy. You have one? Would really appreciate a copy. [ Please respond directly to Jan. -rkm] Thanks - •••@••.••• Jan Blair - San Francisco @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore (•••@••.•••) Wexford, Ireland Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ CyberLib: http://www.internet-eireann.ie/cyberlib Materials may be reposted in their entirety for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
