@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 Sender: Gordon Cook <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: How 'Bout Some Context, Please Mark sez: What was and is intended to replace (or more likely displace) the nation-state is some form of "one-world" government. Cook: you mean like the global information infrastructure commission sponsored by Diana Lady Duggan? Those who haven't taken a trip to their web pages really should. http://www.gii.org/giic/ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 Sender: John Whiting <•••@••.•••> Subject: Barlow/Stahlman The Barlow/Stahlman confrontation demonstrates that the most powerful weapon on the Internet battlefield is still the ability to write good prose. In McLuhan-speak, the Internet has primarily functioned, not as a purveyor of primitive, bit-hungry graphics, but as an extension of the printing press. What they have in common is a total reliance on the human brain, first to formulate, then to comprehend complex, culture-rich relationships between words, as conveyed by the primitive resources of the Semitic alphabet. John Perry Barlow moves fluently in this cultural landscape. He has an easy familiarity with his Romantic antecedents, beginning with Rousseau, and his language demonstrates a kinship with his immediate predecessors, Walt Whitman and Allen Ginsberg. His metaphors are familiar but not utterly predictable. His posture is theatrical but convincing, even moving. Mark Stahlman's refutation relies, not on confronting Barlow's logic or rhetoric, but on the techniques of muck-raking journalism, attempting to demonstrate that his words and actions are intended to further his career. This is an accusation which has been leveled with equal justice against Virgil and Dante, but which has nothing to do with either their passion or their poetry. There are valid criticisms of Barlow's battle-cry, but they have not been made here. The shrill tone of Stahlman's denunciation, together with his impenetrable prose, reduce him to playing the role of a Salieri to Barlow's Mozart. John Whiting Diatribal Press London, England @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 Sender: James Love <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: How 'Bout Some Context, Please On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Mark Stahlman wrote: > What was and is intended to replace (or more likely displace) the > nation-state is some form of "one-world" government. In practical terms, > that government would be run by multi-nationals (and these in turn by an > oligarchy) and administered by technocrats -- like Toffler. ' Sounds like the GATT. jamie @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore - •••@••.••• - Wexford, Ireland Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ Materials may be reposted in their entirety for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
