Dear c-r, This is an unusual posting, and was not an easy call to make, but I believe to allow the current situaton to continue would be a disservice to the list and to cyber rights efforts. I'm referring to the flare-up we've observed arising from Marilyn's posting of a proposed "consensus action". I don't think her posting was at all objectonable -- even though it certainly wasn't the breakthrough of consensus that she hoped it would be. In any case, I don't think her posting or her proposal are at issue here. I do think, however, that Craig Johnson's behavior _is_ at issue, and has become an increasing problem that must be dealt with. Craig contributes very signifcantly to CPSR and to cyber rights, probably as much as any other single individual who isn't on staff. That's great, my hat's off to him... kudos, thanks, keep-up-the-good-work, etc. are all very much in order. His dedication has been the very reason I've withheld from seriously objecting to his online behavior in the past. But I think we've now reached a situation where the status-quo cyber-rights "regime" is incompatible with the productive functioning of the list. Being a co-moderator is a role whose only purpose is to _facilitate_ productive discussion on the list. One does not need to be co-moderator to submit significant posts or to contribute issue-leadership to the list. And one doesn't need to be a co-moderator to draft position papers and file FCC petitions for CPSR. And for sure, "co-moderator" is not a "reward" to be given to someone who can't handle the job, in return for services rendered in other areas. Some of Craig's recent postings are outstanding examples of the worst _problems_ moderators must deal with -- they are the opposite of "facilitation". They are irate, over-personal, unproductive, divisive, and include slurs and intentionally hurtful insults. If they had been submitted by a "mere" subscriber, a typical moderator would have rejected them, with a polite note, and then waited in dread for the inevitable outrage and abuse that would be heaped upon him by such a frustration-prone poster. You might ask why I don't take this up with Craig, privately, or discuss it among the "co-leaders". The answer is: "Been there, Done that, Have the scars to prove it". My experience, over many episodes and a long period of time, is that Craig is simply unable to deal with criticism, or more accurately, _perceived_ criticism. At the most trivial provocations, he _frequently_ flips into childish temper-tantrums, with all guns blazing, and all self-control obviously inoperative. I've been the recipient of many long, rambling attacks with multiple gratuituous obscenities per sentence. The next day, he goes on as if nothing had happened, and expects everyone to forgive him. We all have people like this in our families -- you know, everyone tiptoes around them, and fears they're going to make disasters of family gatherings. They usually succeed in getting their way through such intimidation, since they set the price of disagreement so high. One cannot discuss controversial matters with such a person. As long as his outbursts were confined to the co-leader "family", I've tended to ignore them, although the ability of the co-leaders to work as a team has suffered by this climate of intimidation. But for such a loose-cannon, control-compulsive personality to have his finger on the post-immediate button of the cyber-rights list is, in my opinion, no longer to be tolerated. I hereby request that Craig resign that privilege, and appeal to Andy to take action otherwise. I request this as founder of Cyber Rights, member of the CPSR Working Group, member of the informal "co-leader" team, and as a concerned member of the cyber-rights list. It is true that this is the only such episode that has occurred thus far on the c-r list, but notice that the occasion was one of those very few where a c-r member was proposing that an `action' be taken, and that the episode has spread over several posts. I believe it is appropriate that member intitiatives be encouraged and discussed rationally, not ridiculed. Given Craig's persistent behavior on the co-leader list, which has now begun to spill over onto c-r, I don't think this first episode should be allowed to pass. As long as Craig has his finger on the posting button, the threat of rude intimidation is always there, and Marilyn or others are faced with what the ACLU calls a "chilling effect". It needs to be said that the statements Craig has made about "co-leaders" and their role are his own opinions, and were not discussed or agreed to by anyone else (so far as I know). I don't want to get into those details here, but clearly the role of working group, co-leaders, co-moderators, et al, will need to be discussed and clarified when we get past this current rough spot. There most assuredly should _not_ be (IMHO) a regime where co-leaders are slowing down progress on the list instead of seeking to encourage it, valuing control over participation, and heaping insults upon sincere contributing members. I feel I must apologize in advance for the unimaginably offensive response Craig will probably post (within minutes of receiving this). I've personally reached the point where I just don't have room for his abuse in my life, and can't tiptoe any longer. The chips, unfortunately, must fall where they may. Just for the record, find below a few of the statements that, to me, are unnaceptable, not-on, out-of-line -- at least for a "moderator". Even more significant than rude language, however, was the overall intent to stifle debate and sqelch contributions which Craig couldn't find the time to respond to substantively. The obscenties to which co-leaders have been subjected are much worse than what appears below. Richard K. Moore 6 April 1996 ________________________________________________________________ Craig A. Johnson wrote: >There is such a thing as netiquette, and Ms. Davis badly needs to >learn something about the medium on which she pontificates so >grandiosely. --- >I will not pursue this any further. Sign up for com priv, peruse >their archives and learn something so you can speak in an informed >way. --- >You OTOH are a newbie, and maybe should read and learn before you run >your mouth. --- >Excuse me, I'll say whatever I damn well please. ________________________________________________________________ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. 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