Sender: "David E. Anderson" <•••@••.•••> Discussion of this issue should address the following issues as well as those already raised: - the cost per packet of billing and metering on a packet basis versus the cost of transmitting a packet - how to address the pricing that is implied when you combine the ratio of video bandwidth to email bandwidth with an estimate of what consumers are willing to pay for video bandwidth. Example: if guaranteed T1 (and higher) rates are priced low enough to fit within the entertainment budgets of households, why bother with the email fees for intermittent low-volume email? I don't think the answer is easy and these sketchy two points are only part of the picture. Dave -- David E. Anderson/New Media Support/Oracle Corporation 415-506-6307 fax: 7809 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sender: "David Heck" •••@••.••• Subject: cr> Bandwidth/Dark Fiber (was Re: cr> Online press release) In reply to the entire bandwidth/lack of bandwidth....Wired magazine published an article in their first year of publication on so-called, "Dark Fiber", all the Fiber infrastructure that is in place and not being utilized at all or to its full potential, and furthermore described a relatively inexpensive solution to utilize the Dark Fiber, as a solution to the perceived bandwidth crisis. We don't always have to work in crisis mode, we can come up with some creative alternatives. There's plenty of creativity out there among our list membership, let alone the entire Internet....let's get with it people....I'll post the exact reference, and hopefully be able to locate a URL on Wired's WWW site with the archive, or at least their permission to repost the article here. Now is our time, this is our virtual place. Time for an Internet Tea Party! I think I've found the 'tea', anyone know of a 'harbor' to dump it in? (The 'tea' is bandwidth, and the harbor is any outlet we can pump more packets thru, creativity is the key) There are lots of ideas that can inexpensively be implemented to bring bandwidth to the people without the cable and telco monopolies taking over completely. On a side note, I've sent off only 2 email messages to the White House...and have received a written and signed reply from both the President and the First Lady, on the very issues we are discussing. To be honest, I didn't expect any type of response. On the other hand, I've corresponded numerous times with Senators Glenn and DeWine from Ohio, and strangely enough, have received no reply, to either fax, phone call, letter, or email, on these issues. Maybe it's the arrogance of the office, with Senator Glenn on the Senate Intelligence Committee, we couldn't possibly know what's best for ourselves now could we? And a Freshman Senator, for all his bluster, I haven't even heard a peep from so much as a staffer from any of my correspondence on these issues, whether fax, phone call, letter, or email....not even a mailbot to say 'thanks!'. At least Rep. Tom Sawyer (D-OH), to his credit has continued his correspondence and articulated his reasons for voting as he has on these issues. What has been the experience of the rest of the list members when it comes to correspondence with their elected congress-critters? For the record, I claim no party affiliation and do not vote in the Ohio Primary, as it is not an open primary as in other states. As a country, we are a spectrum of citizens and need not be polarized by only 2 parties. I don't recall anything in the Constitution about the '2-party' system. Let the Games Begin! David David Heck •••@••.••• "if you would rather NOT prefer an honest answer, PLEASE, kindly refrain from asking...(not that I wouldn't answer thoughtfully or tactfully :-) Smiley for the humor-impaired! ErieWeb, The Northcoast's Gateway to the World Wide Web! http://www.erieweb.com/ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Andrew Oram - •••@••.••• - Moderator: CYBER-RIGHTS (CPSR) Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ ftp://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/Library/ CyberJournal: (WWW or FTP) --> ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/rkmoore Materials may be reposted in their _entirety_ for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~