Re: cr> internet telephony

1996-03-17

Sender: Ed Frankenberry <•••@••.•••>

Arun asks:

> Does anyone know whether there is/would be a possibility
> of using Internet telephony without the ISP at this end finding out that
> this is what users are doing via their Internet connections?

There is no practical way for the telecom monopoly to prevent use
of digital links for telephony (vs. data).  After all "bits are bits"
and the same connections that carry e-mail, FTP and web traffic can
certainly transport real-time video and audio as well.  The telecom
must rely on the threat of prosecution to discourage internet telephony
in order to preserve its long-distance monopoly.

This is a hard problem since in the digital domain all media are miscible.
Data packets can contain digitized audio, love letters, images of artwork,
or pornography, stock quotes or spam junk mail.  Even if the traffic
carries a type of service indication, a misleading value can be used
to thwart filtering or the payload data can be encrypted.  Moreover
attempts to label content (such as PICS and the so-called v-chip) require
the voluntary cooperation of the content providers.  Much as they would
like to restrict, censor and otherwise control the uses of the internet,
telecom companies (and legislators) are likely to find it to be
technically infeasible.
        Ed Frankenberry

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Sender: Robert Cannon <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: cr> Andreeson: Phone co. equipment "rapidly becoming


>Good news! Our telecom monopoly, which offers the only full Internet
>connection available to the general public, specifically prohibits its
>use for telephony, thus trying to protect its monopoly over long-distance
>communications. Does anyone know whether there is/would be a possibility
>of using Internet telephony without the ISP at this end finding out that
>this is what users are doing via their Internet connections?
>

Encryption?  Pretty Good Privacy?  It is suppose to be able to be used with
everything.

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