Sender: Ed Frankenberry <•••@••.•••> Arun asks: > Does anyone know whether there is/would be a possibility > of using Internet telephony without the ISP at this end finding out that > this is what users are doing via their Internet connections? There is no practical way for the telecom monopoly to prevent use of digital links for telephony (vs. data). After all "bits are bits" and the same connections that carry e-mail, FTP and web traffic can certainly transport real-time video and audio as well. The telecom must rely on the threat of prosecution to discourage internet telephony in order to preserve its long-distance monopoly. This is a hard problem since in the digital domain all media are miscible. Data packets can contain digitized audio, love letters, images of artwork, or pornography, stock quotes or spam junk mail. Even if the traffic carries a type of service indication, a misleading value can be used to thwart filtering or the payload data can be encrypted. Moreover attempts to label content (such as PICS and the so-called v-chip) require the voluntary cooperation of the content providers. Much as they would like to restrict, censor and otherwise control the uses of the internet, telecom companies (and legislators) are likely to find it to be technically infeasible. Ed Frankenberry @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Sender: Robert Cannon <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cr> Andreeson: Phone co. equipment "rapidly becoming >Good news! Our telecom monopoly, which offers the only full Internet >connection available to the general public, specifically prohibits its >use for telephony, thus trying to protect its monopoly over long-distance >communications. Does anyone know whether there is/would be a possibility >of using Internet telephony without the ISP at this end finding out that >this is what users are doing via their Internet connections? > Encryption? Pretty Good Privacy? It is suppose to be able to be used with everything. ====================================================== | Robert Cannon, Esq. | | Internet and Interactive Telecommunications Law | | •••@••.••• 703-527-6631 (home office) | | Washington, D.C. http://www.cais.net/cannon | ====================================================== ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Andrew Oram - •••@••.••• - Moderator: CYBER-RIGHTS (CPSR) Cyber-Rights: http://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/ ftp://www.cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/cyber-rights/Library/ CyberJournal: (WWW or FTP) --> ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/rkmoore Materials may be reposted in their _entirety_ for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~-~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~